Yes, I did change the picture from yesterday's post after reading LBT's comment, and he was correct. I don't even remember doing the post to be honest, but after reviewing my list......it is not a bad one. So therefore, I will do two more post after this one to classify the stages of male fashion. The list I did yesterday is stage 1 (beginner) if you will. The only addition I would make to that list is the addition of two sweaters. Every person needs a good cotton sweater, and light weight wool in very traditional colors.
As I prepare the lists for future post, I wanted to display my new shoes that arrived today. I purchased them brand new from eBay, and I love them. However, if you notice the title, I say to not buy them just yet. This title is for those who are in the "beginner" or possibly even stage two phases of sartorial gathering. However, I do recommend these shoes to stage three sartorial warriors, and they are so comfortable. Have a great weekend!
17 comments:
First of all, my best wishes for the new year.
Now, I wouldn't like you to be anoyed for my comment to your last post - which I appreciate so much -:
I do not think that to buy a pair of shoes from eBay could be considered very "sartorial". Even if they look good and, as you say, are really comfortable.
This is my present for the new year: Try to get information about EDWARD GREEN shoes. It is not a question of price but a very high quality. They are traditional English shoes, entirely hand-made (not made to measure as the JOHN LOBB are) but a work of art, anyway. Perhaps, you already know about them but if not I strongly advice you to get informed "asap".
The prices are around 1000 USD a pair (725 €) but regardless their high prices, in my opinion they are really wonderful. I am sure that you will enjoy.
If you want to ask for a brochure try the following address:
www.sales@edwardgreen.com
www.edwardgreen.com
I am going to give up for a future response my ideas about the "indispensable guide to classic men (or young men) clothing" in which I have read that you are working now.
Thank you very much for your posts,
Miguel Ángel Pérez (Barcelona, Spain)
Ah, the Butler shoe by Ralph Lauren. I got this shoe, not in this color, when it came out three years ago. I couldn't wait for them to be on ebay, so I got mine from polo.com. When I saw them in an ad, I couldn't resist. Good choice of shoes.
YIKES!
They look rather fey.
Dick:
I don't think one should ever buy those shoes.
You really should do something about this predilection for any and all things Polo or Lauren related.
non_such
Just when I thought you were a tampon, you say something intelligent. Those shoes are ugly. And Dicky boy's infatuation with Polo isn't bad in and of itself, it's just that he goes for the ugly, tacky stuff.
Anonymous:
But would someone capable of appraising any sort of intelligence, however rudimentary, have such a pitiful vocabulary wholly incapable of leaving the restroom?
Don't bother answering. What a sad creature that does not have the nerve to pen an anonymous name to so many childish salvos.
I think that poaching the Gucci multicolored ribbon is a bit snarky on the part of the Polo shoe folks and it's a bit overkill on the otherwise good looking loafer. It isn't over the top but it's getting close.
Not to parse words/definitions too much with Miguel...but....
1. Sartorial panache can be manifest through procuring tasty goods from a variety of sources....ebay included. The first place I go when I land in London is Bertie Wooster in Fullham...a great vintage clothing place. Ebay is nothing more than a "digital Bertie Wooster" ...I have on a pair of black suede-rubber lug sole Gucci loafers right now. The source....ebay.
2. Edward Green....ah...Miguel is so correct in his admiration of EG. Edward Green, Crockett and Jones and John Lobb shoes are routinely offered on ebay...does that make them less tasty? I think not. I've been wear EG shoes for years and they are superb. It would be the next step up for you Richard. However, I'd bet that you already own Edward Green shoes.
The loafers you have pictured are not made by EG but the slippers you had on in a previous post are most probably made by EG. EG does a lot of commisioned work for Polo. I have my Edward Green shoes made through Alan Flusser as he has access to a special last as well as some unique leathers/suedes.
Finally Richard, you are a thousandfold more evolved sartorially than 99% of all 31 year old men out there. My prediction is that in another 17 years, you will have matured into an incredibly savvy sartorialist and some of your more theatrical assemblages will have moderated a bit.
Why 17 years? Because I was just like you at 31.
All the best to you.
Unfortunately, while Richard's style may improve over time, the same cannot be said for his intellect.
I think Richard is plenty smart and sophisticated. Wonderful shoes Richard-best of luck with them!
Richard........WASP 101?......you have those who
see this as your personal expression re:fashion.
Fine.You have those who offer potshot criticisms
of you who don't understand a thing about fashion
to begin with.Once in a while there are some
"constructive" criticisms.
(excuse the improper spacing of paragraphs)
(the message is clear enough)
If one were to describe what you are trying to
accomplish here.........
Conclusions: you seem to be a "translator" for
what you describe as WASP fashion,for those
you wish to educate and/or share thoughts.
BUT-you seem to wish to project an identity
about YOURSELF ,which you really do not possess,
in hopes of cultivating an image of a REAL LIFE
WASP,fashion commentator and consultant,
correspondingly.
Here we arrive at the "problem" so to speak.
You choose not to present the subject in a
documentary fashion,apart from yourself
but go as far as MODELING YOURSELF,
hence, DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF,
which completely murders any chance of hoping
to possess true WASP character.
Why not AMERICAN FASHION 101?
Or Traditional Fashion 101?
Sorry Richard but it's painfuuly obvious you are
trying to establish a WASP identity for yourself,
by doing EVERYTHING WRONG and counter to
such a goal.
WHY is there WASP envy to begin with?
What is it truly about the WASP lifestyle and
character that captivates?
Because it is a class of pepole that "have it all",
(the perception of non-wasps at least),and at
the same time superb character along with it.
NO EGO.No need to prove anything to anyone.
NOT FASCINATED by their own lives.
Due to generation passed on to generation,
of refinment resulting in TO THE MANOR BORN.
A WASP IS -NOT -A WASP for the purpose of
"caring" or needing the approval of ANYONE.
You are "translating" how TO -ACT-LIKE A WASP.
The real "secret" Richard in what makes a WASP
a WASP,IS THE UPBRINGING...........
The fashion of the WASP WORLD IS AN
EXTENSION OF ITS INNATE CHARACTER,Richard.
The way you present the subject at hand is
superficial......
You are "teaching" through WASP 101 ,how to
FAKE being a WASP,as if the fashion sense of
the WASP can be taught apart from its true
origins.
A motivation of wanting to teach our current
generation of slobs, what proper traditional
fashion can do is one thing.GOOD GOAL.
But it's all from within Richard.
Can WASP character be taught in such a manner
that one can eventually be mistaken as if they
attended the finest IVY LEAGUE school,give off
the impression,THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OLD
MONEY PERSON IF I'VE EVER SEEEN ONE,.......
YES.IT CAN.
But Richard you are going about it ALL THE
WRONG WAY........
You're making yourself ,TRYING to make a WASP
CHARACTER OF YOURSELF.
ALMOST AS IF-This Richard was a Television
Produced or Film produced character who happens
to be a WASP and you're carrying on the
misadventures of the character.
As if this was WASP 101 by Mr Howell of Gilligans
Island and you are staying in "Mr Howell"
character in your discourse.
In short,if one has to ACT like A WASP, Richard.....
YOU ARE THE FURTHEST THING FROM IT.......
Carry On.
the scariest thing here is that richard seems to be such a simpleton he doesn't understand the valid criticisms being leveled at him. people are trying to save him from making an ass of himself and yet he refuses to listen.
Some of you guys kill me!
Not intending for this comment to defend Richard's
criticisms in any way, BUT...
Do you realize the most important point regarding
fashion,sartorial splendor, is practically NEVER
discussed.
If Richard were as handsome as say,one of R.Lauren's
male models,..........THE COMPLIMENTS WOULD
BE ENDLESS.
The most shallow ,obvious observations go
unoticed. Unfortunately there is no getting
around it.
Every criticism of Richard's choices as to what
would coordinate better with what,saddle shoes
don't belong,crests are too guache, etc,.....
Would all be forgiven IF Richard were dashingly
handsome..........WHY?
Take a $ 1,500 cashmere sweater ,top designer
label,put it on a 300lb overweight out of shape
man........LOSES ALL OF ITS STYLE.
Now one can look to the past of such men as
Sydney Greenstreet,Orson Welles,who managed
to still carry themselves with style at their
heaviest...WITH CUSTOM MADE WARDROBES.
But there's no getting around it.Whether one belongs ,truly,to the culture of origin of their
fashion choice,you simply look BETTER no
matter WHAT ,the more lean,the prettier,the
more shapely the woman,the more lean,the more
dashing the man.......all of a sudden those
saddle shoes are spectacular! All of a sudden
that crest becomes you!
Coupled with the confidence that the handsome
man with the perfect head of hair........
KNOWS HE'S HANDSOME.
The saddle shoe becomes acceptable because of
the level of confident assurance I wear it with.
So before ANY OTHER ISSUE regarding fashion
be discussed, recgonize its greatly,GREATLY
SUBJECTIVE, as to how it falls on the person
wearing it.
The true WASP IS the gentlemen that CAN make
what all think cannot work,WORK.
That is the style of the WASP.
Now as far as Richard is concerned........................
Dick also claims to have MTM/bespoke items. However, I continue to see only items from Macy's PRL boys department.
Great find.!! I love your shoes. Green stripes are so cute.
I would rather have a pair of Salvatore Ferragamo loafers in black. Minnetonka loafers have more style than those Ralphie Lauren loafers.
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